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Post by ShenYue! Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:28 am

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Don't read this if you are Fan of SNSD!
We seriously don't want your feelings to get hurt ...
but we would like to report what we think is important for others to know!
Hopefully you guys will soon realize who you have put your love and faith to!
and just to fill in your curiosity to allow you skip this post ...
this is just a wrap up of the second chapter of DC concert for SNSD!


We didn't cover on SMTown concert ..
Cuz we too were fascinated ....
by all the hard work people at the STAND FORUM have done ...
http://standintl.motionforum.net/portal.htm
You get all your questions answered there combined!

So SM prior to the concert had a hard time selling the tickets ..
Even after he brought in BOA from Japan in the hope of filling the stadium ..
it didn't work .. imagine we are having DBSK shirtless on the stage, SUJU, BOA etc ..
and they have a hard time .. filling a stadium that would get filled with DBSK fans alone!
rumors that they ended up giving away free tickets ....
but appearnetly .. that didn't do the magic either!
The truth is some FCs were apparently on boycott!

and we all know the reason ...
it's cuz KPOP fans don't agree on being forced to get tortured ...
by a group that has a history of insult and disrespect to their favorite artists ..
the artists that are being forced into so many romance rumors just to give SNSD publicity ..
that is aside from all CFs and MVs of their artists that
they have to bare watching SNSD members in it!
that is where SNSD after a year from their debut ...
still are getting a free ride from left and right from their seniors!

an example is Super Junior H (Happy)'s mini album ..
the first MV of the Album "cooking? cooking! ..." had Sunny featured in it!
Not only that but one of the songs of the album was called SUNNY!
and the group even promoted the song for monthes!



That is not to mention SNSD fans who rape,
stab other fan clubs in the face and body with knife, etc
and if writing SNSD's Member's name on their hand ...
is not the evidence of how psycho these people are .. then what is?

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source: http://standintl.motionforum.net/news-rumors-to-share-post-here-f2/koreans-have-finally-taken-notice-of-snsd-s-crazy-fans-t141.htm

So this turned out to be the status of the seats at the concert .. after all ...
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Now, so many SNSD fans came to defend .. that the pictures are taken from rehearsal ...
HEHEHEHHEEH .. total awwwwwwwwwwwww ....
Once again STAND people took care of that as well!
http://standintl.motionforum.net/snsd-anti-fan-articles-f17/smtown-concert-delusionfuls-defense-t285.htm
and
http://standintl.motionforum.net/news-rumors-to-share-post-here-f2/smtownlive-08-update-so-it-was-the-rehearsals-huh-t286.htm


The concert was not finished that SNSD fans came out saying ..
that SNSD were cheered by all other fanclubs!
imagine what was like on the SNSD places ...
it's funny how there was even NEWS about that on the Korean news sites ..
but how about this one?
The released date of the news .. was even before the concert was ended!

Again STAND proved that wrong as well!
http://standintl.motionforum.net/news-rumors-to-share-post-here-f2/smtownlive-08-update-the-cheering-of-all-fcs-for-snsd-t281.htm

But i wonder why no one ever mentioned this piece ..
and that is when SNSD Got Booed!

Yes, not only SNSD were not cheered on .. they GOT BOOED!
Watch the ending of the concert .. where each of the performers come and say few words
SNSD appear after 'The Grace' .. see the terror look at the Sunny's face!
and trust what you are hearing on the background! yes .. that should be enough!

If it was not convincing ... wait for the ZLY to appear after SNSD!


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Post by dragonninja598000 Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:47 am

awww. too bad for them. only if they didn't f*** themselves over with all that publicity stunts. oh well. i hope SM learns from this crap and makes it better. cuz that's a lot of empty seats.

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Post by p00p Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:13 am

The thing is, is that everyone needs to stop. Yes, SNSD's FC may have started a lot of the things (due to SM's promotions and crappy overexposure, which got male fans goo gaga), but it's just going to go back and forth.

Imagine if SM broke SNSD up. I'd expect more than cut wrists.
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Post by ShenYue! Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:28 am

^ i agree .. breaking them up .. would be trouble as well ...
They will probably end up doing MC jobs ,,, take on Radio Dj jobs!
But them in those jobs have already received so many bad responses as well ...
Tiffany on that show she was doing was replaced the day after DC with a Kara member
words having it that the producer didn't want her there anymore!
Sunny's radio job with Suju Sungmin due to low rate got canceled not long time ago .. producers no matter how influential SM is or how much he bribes to make SNSD members appear on their shows are no longer willing to take a risk to lower their shows rating!

You are really right on it ..
it was all SM's fault for over exposing SNSD with wrong marketing ..
and all those HOOHAA that even got into SNSD's members ...
you could see how after couple awards that was purchased for them ..
couple wrong statistic on their album sale exceeding such and such in the history of KPOP
beating Wondergirls on the paper .. etc ... and how they appeared on TV and news 24/7
caused even SNSD members to have a change of personality .... they acted like they were ruling the industry .. and revealed the side of themselves that every one wishes was a way to take all those wring doings back!

you covered the part about their fans very well ...
it's really scary how things are going now ...
and SM is not giving up on promoting them one bit!
He is still planning on taking SNSD with SMTown all the way around Asia!
why wouldn't SM just give everyone a break!

Shinee debuted after them .. and didn't get 30% of the promotion SNSD get!
they are doing so well now .. and are more than popular without any rumor or stupid CF, MV with other SM's artists ... what is it hard to realize that people are for talent! i can't believe after a year SNSD are still blaming the sound system and Mic for not being heard or their terrible live performances .. their best dancer got their dance steps wrong last week!


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http://standintl.motionforum.net/news-rumors-to-share-post-here-f2/why-are-they-still-performing-t258.htm


if i was running SM . .. i would put these girls in hiding for 2-3 years
till everything gets cooled down .. then i would decide what can be done!
but SM is not listening ..
He is already at making their comeback with 2nd album ... a BIG mistake!


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Post by dragonninja598000 Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:43 am

yeah. maybe going off the radar for them is good. i mean it will give them time to be MORE MATURE. which is always a good thing. it will also give them a chance to change their image and TRAIN THEIR VOCALS AND DANCING SKILLS. >.<

if SNSD broke up. they might need to call for riot control. and i expect it to be worse than just a stab wound.

i feel bad for some of them who actually look good. cuz their just getting f***ed in the ass by the stupid ones.


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Post by Sweet Pink Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:45 am

0.o I ddnt think it was that bad but I'm assuming it was expected?
well I agree, SM over-exposed SNSD when it's only been a year since they debuted. As pOOp said, it'll be a chaos if SM broke up SNSD.
...they're gonna make a 2nd album??! Good Luck with that!!!
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Post by p00p Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:45 am

Then again, I think SM is still learning when it comes to girlgroups. Yes he had SES (and some other unsuccessful ones), but that was years before and times have changed. CSJH isn't at the popularity of SNSD, which is probably why SM was experimenting a different way, which was more in the "entertainment" route. At least when SHINee debuted, he could plan out the reactions of (certain/expected) fans because he already had experience from DBSK, who were took a more musical route and Super Junior, who had an entertainment route. Hopefully, he'll learn something if he ever thinks of getting another girl group out there (which was supposed to be Touchs, but the controversies of the last few months was probably the reason as to why that idea has started to fizzle a bit).

IMHO, I think SNSD could've gotten a lot of good fans if they had been promoted a different way. Their debut was a very strong start and when they began promoting their album, it seemed ok. But, it seems this year has really made them strike a bad chord with fans of other groups.
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Post by dragonninja598000 Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:53 am

CSJH isnt' at that level mainly because SM tried promoting them as the girl version of DBSK. which was bad at the start because of the fact that DBSK was already really good.

just notice that it doesn't work when SM copies the same formula they used for the boy bands and puts it in a girl group.

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Post by p00p Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:01 am

^That's true that it was bad at the start, but that's why CSJH isn't as criticized (and more respected) because they are focused more on the musical aspects than promoting themselves through radio and TV shows (which they do, but since they travel between Japan and Korea, they don't get that much).
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Post by Orchidyaldix Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:09 am

Oh I was really waiting for info on this!!
Well...at first, when they just debuted I kinda like the fact that there were more female contribution in the Kpop industry...but they just kept on dissapointing everyone...It was really hard for me to accept the fact that they really let everyone down...I mean, they being disrespectful to their seniors and to the fans...it was really bad and they were so obvious!! For example, when Tiffany was mocking DBSK-Max's laugh right there on tv!...oh my gosh that was really awful, or when they left their fan's mails and gifts in the trash...I don't know how they expect any change in their ex-fans or antis...SM is really wrong...breaking them up is not a good idea...maybe let them do some sort of solo work, cleaning their image...a lot! hmmm...in the end they even might breaking up...or whatever...besides is not really fair for other artists to be punished because they work with them...was the radio show with our sweet Sungmin really cancelled?? that's so not fair!
I'm glad they got booed and that they realize that they are not loved...let's hope that it gives them a reality shock and change...
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Post by Enchant Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:36 am

sighh what a disaster all those empty seats....amazing~~~the power of fanclubs XD~~!!

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Post by faith Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:20 am

i was expecting this...
i guess snsd is not all bad.. and i much rather take a neutral stand on this.

but the difference between the cheer for snsd and zhang li yin was.. humongous. at first i thought maybe the crowd wasn't in a cheering mode cause i skipped to snsd, but then i heard the cheer for zhang li ying and i knew i was wrong.

and sm actually gave our FREE tickets. oh why oh why am i not living in korea? i don't mind the free tickets.
but seriously, jae joong and YUNHO were almost topless, junsu had the extremely sexy dance, you get to see BOA who hasn't been in korea for AGES, you get to see the oh-so-new-yet-talented SHINEE, you get to see suju-h in their exceptionally coloured clothes and you get to see the almost-13 SUJU.
and so little fans wanted to go?
i didn't think much of it when i read that the sm town tickets hadn't sold out yet. but really, the extent of missing out on all the eye-candy just because of snsd? that's really extreme!

but free tickets^^
if this happened for the bangkok concert [it probably wouldn't right?]..
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Post by l0v3p1gg13 Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:41 am

lmao XD
well all i have to say is "you reap what you sow"
and that goes to both SNSD and SM
too bad~
if they weren't there
it might have been a concert worth going to...
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Post by Tangera Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:10 am

Why do I have the feeling that when SM knew that the tickets weren't selling well, he made it a point to make the fans who boycotted the concert regret their decisions...? Perhaps that's why we get shirtless Yunho, YooChun and Jaejoong, as well as lots of other rare collaborations....>.<
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Post by farewell Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:24 am

not bad reaction...

but 4 sure i hope the silent more than that...

hahahahha

can u see the different when dbsk,csjh suju even shinee speaking???

the crowd so crowded, i even cant hear their voice...

but when SNSD speak i can hear them clearly...

i really want to see hows the power of nine after this tragedy...


hope LSM can open his F***C*ing EYES...
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Post by rosetta16 Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:46 am

ahhh im so happy these happen i thought they were cheer

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Post by slackerkain Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:06 am

What has led to this, I guess partly it's like what all of you have said, how SNSD are being promoted. But no matter how they are being promoted, these girls should be responsible for their own actions. With all those ridiculous actions that they have done, it's no wonder why there are so many antis. I guess majority of the antis didn't hate SNSD in the first place, when they first debuted. If they are talented and did not carry out all the ridiculous acts, no one would have anything to say. However, on watching DC once more, I was more confirmed that I don't like these girls, for they can't sing in live. Whatever has happened now, SNSD has brought it upon themselves.
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Post by madibi Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:47 pm

hahaha..i'm happy now!
at first someone told me nothing really happen, and i'm like WAT?
the FCs did nothing to those bitches??
now after reading all the comments and articles, i felt great!
the concert would be a success if SM didn't include those bitches in!
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Post by Top_PoPPo Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:05 pm

i kind of expecting that treatment..lol
but really,,they deserve it..
sooner oR later SM have 2 realize that his 'plastic-cat-dolls' won't make things working out en of course that's not good for his finance..
SM please get REAL!!
why u have 2 risk ur money for promote even make their 2nd album (gosh..one album isn't enough) when u can save ur money 2 promote n make album for ur other GREAT artists..
i guess even shinee deserve all the spotlight that he gave 2 those girls..

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Post by madibi Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:16 pm

did snshitd sing any new songs from their 2nd album??
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Post by firegoddess716 Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:50 pm

yay!!
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Post by steph Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:21 pm

lol..sm give free tix and is still empty??
such a waste!
i agree wth some of u up there that sm shouldnt continue to promote snsd now..he should wait til abit longer since now da fans still hate them..
i wonder wat will happen to their 2nd album when it release..
well all da best to them
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Post by Cutie Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:59 pm

gone for only four days and what did I miss!?

Thanks for the info~ >_____________________<
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Post by p00p Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:30 am

Even if SNSD was put on hold for a while, I'm pretty sure they would still retain most of the anti-fans that they have gotten. The anti's will find their way to attack SNSD even if they are put on the back burner. So really, they might as well release their second album.

I'm pretty sure the second album will still sell relatively decent considering the amount of fans that SNSD still hold.
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Post by dragonninja598000 Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:43 am

p00p wrote:Even if SNSD was put on hold for a while, I'm pretty sure they would still retain most of the anti-fans that they have gotten. The anti's will find their way to attack SNSD even if they are put on the back burner. So really, they might as well release their second album.

I'm pretty sure the second album will still sell relatively decent considering the amount of fans that SNSD still hold.

fair enough. but at least they could comeback with more talent.

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